Michael
Wow! This is very revealing. I find it very scary that the powers of plutocracy can manufacture this level of fear and hate and so easily manipulate people to fight like hell against their own self interest. Even scarier is how much of the debate these people are capturing. I wish I had a clue about how to counter it or neutralize it effectively. The video itself is brilliant. My complements to the chef.
Mon at 11:58pm
Susan
This reminds me of "Jay Walking" When you get a group of tens of thousands of people and start asking them questions, it is easy to find a dozen or so who are idiots. The same thing happened with the Million Man March, abortion rights protests at the capital, impeach Bill Clinton rallys, etc. There are extremists (and morons) in all walks of poilitical life. They don't represent the majority. They're just the loudest.....and usually most ignorant....right or left.
Brooke
although i do agree that few are the extremists, i disagree on the idea that the majority is not represented. the majority is idiots that are poorly educated, ignorant, fearful, and bandwagoners.
Yesterday at 7:37am
ME
I think that, when we are confronted by an ignorant, uneducated, bigoted, racist morons who hate America and threaten insurrection or secession, we should reach out with compassion and understanding and patiently explain that Glen and Rush and Sean are lying to them, . . . and when they don't get it,. . . then smack 'em up side the head. That is something that they can understand.
Yesterday at 5:33pm
Brooke
Brooke
I think that puts salt in the wound and you become part of the problem. And that is my mother you are speaking about and i would appreciate it if you engaged in politics with respect and patience.
ME
Brooke, are you saying that your mother is an ignorant uneducated bigoted racist moron who hates America and thrreatens insurrection and secession? I hope not. Iignorant uneducated bigoted racist morons who hate America and believe the crap that's spewed by the Glen Becks and Sean Hannitys don't deserve respect for their stupidity or tolerance for their hateful and hatefilled political agenda. And quite frankly I've run out of patience with them
Brooke
Brooke
What I am saying is that my mother was one of those protestors, and I do believe that she is ignorant to many aspects of american politics. she is not a college graduate, but she is still incredibly brilliant in many aspects of her life. She frowns upon me dating people of other races, and at times, like anyone else she can be irrational. But she is by no means a hater of america. None of those people hate america. that is why they are fighting for it. it may not be how you would like them to fight for it, but is the pride and love for their country and what their country stands for that they choose to act. I dont know much about glen beck, but i do consider hannity to be a very well educated individual even though i rarely agree with his politics. There is hate in both sides agenda, and I too am disheartened by it. But I can choose to sit on my computer and squabble over the issue on facebook with you or I can choose to try to help the situation by respectfully talking to my mom and others. No good will come from the mocking and bickering. It will only divide us even further. What we need is respectful conversation in order to understand one another rather than try to change eachothers opinions. The ancient people of athens did this. We all need to help eachother grow, and in doing so we will all be ... Read Morecloser to truly embracing not only an American community byt a global community. But it has to start from the bottom up. thats me and you. We need not think alike to love alike.
ME
ME
Brooke, you have a gentle view of, and a reasonable prescription for, a better world. Unfortunately however, the President's attempt to create areas of respectful conversation has not been met with either respect or conversation. I didn't see any pride nor love; not for god not for country, in thdemonstrators.
You are right though, no good should come from mocking or insulting the President. Unfortunately however, the Becks, Hannitys and Limbaughs have made fortunes misinforming, propagandizing and inciting their audiences. - Good for them I guess.
Right now you've got Americans who can't embrace other Americans because the other ?Americans? are Black (americans) - some "American" community. America a part of a global community? What community would want 2009 America to be a part of it?
6pm
Brooke
You are right though, no good should come from mocking or insulting the President. Unfortunately however, the Becks, Hannitys and Limbaughs have made fortunes misinforming, propagandizing and inciting their audiences. - Good for them I guess.
Right now you've got Americans who can't embrace other Americans because the other ?Americans? are Black (americans) - some "American" community. America a part of a global community? What community would want 2009 America to be a part of it?
6pm
Brooke
So many countries would! I mean i understand why you would think otherwise, but I just got back from studying abroad in 9 different countries. I have grown to realize through my journey that i am not "proud" to be an american, rather I am honored. Despite the bitterness encountered at times by locals, overall everyone couldnt imagine their country without america in their global economy. the second people found out i was american they would respond with Obama! You like? I love Obama! or some rendition very close to that. from greece to croatia, turkey to egypt, morocco to spain, america is very much embraced and they are all eager to see where Obama takes us. Ill let you know how asia feels when i go there in 3 months.
Susan
Susan
Wow, Brooke! Very insightful for someone so young.
It is easy to say someone is misinformed but I don't see any facts from the fingerpointers that would support their attacks. I'd love to read what Stephen Allan Shikes thinks of Ann Coulter.
ME
It is easy to say someone is misinformed but I don't see any facts from the fingerpointers that would support their attacks. I'd love to read what Stephen Allan Shikes thinks of Ann Coulter.
ME
Thanks Susan; it's important that Brooke realize that all those finger pointing protesters didn't have a fact to support their attacks on the President or his call for Health Insurance reform. It's a sad comment on Americans that the hatred of our President finds such an angry and belligerant voice in America when the President has been so well received abroad.
Given America's role in the global economic crisis, I have no doubt that people in other countries have no trouble imagining how much better their economies would have been today if America hadn't led the world economy to near economic collapse.
As for Ann Coulter; I have heard hear speak. I don't think that she has anything to contribute to this or any other political discussion. I tjink that she is a good example (along with Glen Beck, Hannity, etc.) of the kind of hate monger that upsets Brooke. They are not a good source for facts, philosophy, theology or politics. They are a good source for false facts.
Given America's role in the global economic crisis, I have no doubt that people in other countries have no trouble imagining how much better their economies would have been today if America hadn't led the world economy to near economic collapse.
As for Ann Coulter; I have heard hear speak. I don't think that she has anything to contribute to this or any other political discussion. I tjink that she is a good example (along with Glen Beck, Hannity, etc.) of the kind of hate monger that upsets Brooke. They are not a good source for facts, philosophy, theology or politics. They are a good source for false facts.
Do you really see any semblence of a respectful conversation coming from Republicans, Brooke? Listen to your "well-educated" Hannity's tone: it is derisive , sarcastic, and like other right commenters dripping with disdain and mockery. There is no honest debate there. Do you know the FACTS concerning the debates of our time such as health care? And while you're tripping around the "world" how about an inner conversation with yourself in an honest attempt to increase the sensitivity of your "bullshit" detector. I think you may not really want to believe what's going on here. And oh yeah one thing going on is a heaping tablespoon of good old=fashioned racism. I lived in the South. . .I kin smell it! or if you prefer a fact: only 10% of whites in Alabama voted for Obama about same in other Southern states. Don't tell me they all took an unbiased hard look at his positions! They took a hard look at his 1/2 black face my dear. If you wish to side with the haters; people not concerned in the least with honest dialogue , ,go right ahead. maybe you consider telling the President of the United States to go back to Kenya to be an honest respectful exchange of ideas!
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